New to ADS-B and new to feeding, need some assistance please.

Discussion in 'Feeding' started by kv4jw, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. kv4jw

    kv4jw New Member

    I've posted over on FlightAware forums some, and just recently found this site. I have some questions about feeding that I hope can be answered. I'm totally new to ADS-B feeding and monitoring, and pretty green with computers and stuff, so a lot of what's explained to me has to be dumbed down. I am however pretty experienced with radio and antenna theory, as I'm a ham. I also have an aviation background so I understand the premise of ADS-B. The logistics just confuse me a little bit.

    I have an ADS-B UBS dongle stick, the blue FlightAware Pro Plus or whatever. I also have a home made spider antenna on a little pole in my radio room. It seems to work decent for picking up flights, but I'm considering going to an outdoor antenna soon. For now I'm going to stick with the spider though. I've pretty much got the hardware set up the way I want it for the time being. My questions have to do with feeding and viewing flights now.

    I've downloaded dump1090 to my PC and am able to pick up several flights, and now I'm interested in incorporating a Raspberry Pi 3 to my equipment so that I can feed my information and see the flights on a map. I have ordered a RPI3 and it will be delivered today, so I'm ready to get going.

    Now is where I'm getting a little confused.

    I see a few different websites that do the flight tracking and feeding thing. FlightAware, FlightRadar24, RadarBox, etc. I've also noticed on my smartphone apps that sometimes the data between FA and FR24 varies a little bit. I tend to notice more general aviation aircraft on FR24 than on FA. Is there a reason for this? Or could there just be FR24 coverage in some areas where FA isn't?

    Now that I've discovered this website, I see that I can feed data here too. I read a statement earlier that the data I stream here is shared with everyone else (FR24, FA, etc.) - so logically, feeding here would be the best of both worlds, right? Wrong?

    If this is true, my next question is "how do I?" I have a microSD at home with PiAware loaded on it, awaiting my Raspberry Pi to be delivered today. Should I delete it and etch some kind of other software on it to feed here? Or is that not how it works?

    Please help!
     
  2. MDA

    MDA Administrator Staff Member

    ADSB Exchange is one and only global source of unfiltered data.
    There are many ways to feed, piaware is one of easiest, just add adsbx feeder.
    Other options:
    - fresh raspbian + dump1090/readsb + feeders you want to install (see https://github.com/wiedehopf?tab=repositories)
    - adsbexchange image (see other forum thread)
    - skybup (nice grafana dash, many features, only if you only want to feed adsbexchange)
    and many more...
     
  3. kv4jw

    kv4jw New Member

    Cool, so where I already have PiAware installed on my SD card, how do I add adsbx to it?
     
  4. MDA

    MDA Administrator Staff Member

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install git
    git clone https://github.com/adsbxchange/adsb-exchange.git
    cd adsb-exchange
    chmod +x setup.sh
    sudo ./setup.sh
     
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  5. kv4jw

    kv4jw New Member

    Thank you so much!
     
  6. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    FA on the global map doesn't show planes without a flight plan due to performance reasons. (https://discussions.flightaware.com...ive-flight-tracking-site/52431/10?u=wiedehopf)

    Additionally quite a few planes are censored on Flightaware (and FR24, planefinder ...)

    You might be interested in some graphs:
    https://github.com/wiedehopf/graphs1090#graphs1090

    Some more web interfaces to chose from:
    https://github.com/wiedehopf/tar1090#tar1090
    https://github.com/alkissack/Dump1090-OpenLayers3-html
    https://github.com/Mictronics/readsb (would replace dump1090-fa unless you run it net-only mode and change the ports, then you could run it in parallel.)

    Some people like VRS (i personally dont'): http://www.virtualradarserver.co.uk/
     
  7. kv4jw

    kv4jw New Member

    Okay, so I'm home now and have my Raspberry Pi 3 assembled and ready to go. I have also opted to clear the PiAware on my SD card and etch the ADSBExchange image instead.

    SD card installed, Pi is ready to be powered up. Now what do I do? Is there a tutorial somewhere walking me through setting all of this up?
     
  8. MDA

    MDA Administrator Staff Member

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  9. kv4jw

    kv4jw New Member

    Okay I've got that file edited. Do I need to do that wifi set up thing, or how do I get my RPI connected to Wifi?

    Nevermind, just noticed that in the same file, ha.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2019
  10. MDA

    MDA Administrator Staff Member

    Edit this section in /boot/adsb-config.txt
    Code:
    ENABLE_WIFI yes
    WIFI_SSID "SSID"
    WIFI_PASSWORD "password"
    KEY_MGMT "WPA"
     
  11. kv4jw

    kv4jw New Member

    Yeah, I just noticed that. Okay, so I've got all of that done. Powering up.

    EDIT: Was able to fumble around and get logged into the Raspberry Pi, clicked on the map, and boom. I'm tracking airplanes!

    Hopefully I'll start feeding to ADSBX too, and then I'll set up FA feeder too. Man this is awesome. Thank you so much for your help!
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2019