PA44-180 Activity All Over Texas

Discussion in 'Spotting and Interesting Aircraft' started by Mark SKIPPER, Dec 9, 2020.

  1. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    And at 11:15 am N47TN is now within 1/4 mile of my property. I can hear it outside. I live on 14 acres. Within 40 miles of Conroe a 40 mile by 40 mile box contains 1600 sections. A section contains 640 acres. So, there's 1,024,000 acres in the 40 square mile box and my 14 acres gets all of this PA44 activity? I can demonstrate this very same thing on dozens and dozens and dozens of other days with N882AT and other PA44s. Just asking. I seem to have a popular 14 acres for aircraft activity, especially for planes who at FlightAware.com have names that include (Wilmington DE). Just asking. Combine with the fact I've been observing this type of activity for 3 1/2 years.

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  2. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    Here ya go folks. Here's a C-130, apparently of the Egyptian Air Force that just flew over the South end of my property. All the way from West Africa:

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    Here it is at ADS-b:
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  3. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    That's just a coincidence, from West Africa to my property. It didn't perform a Figure-8 though. I'll admit that.
     
  4. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    It is 5:00 pm on 12/17/2020, and this is a Cirrus SR20 with a Figure-8. It is owned by Cirrus Design Corp, the plane's maker:

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  5. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    N1444C C172-S at 5:03 pm with a Figure-8 directly over my residence. Owned by Flight Operations Aircraft LLC (Wilmington DE), and (Wilmington DE) airplane performing a Figure-8 over my residence; 2 in the last 10 days:

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    This doesn't mean anything though I'm told.
     
  6. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member


    So, its just a standard maneuver for pilot training. Within 63 minutes of the time I first started this thread a PA44 out of Conroe flew almost on a beeline to my property and performed a Figure-8 right over me as I was outside watching. Is it a standard for folks who start threads about PA44s flying Figure-8s to have one do that within 60 minutes of posting a thread about that subject? If so, this guy was 3 minutes late! Look down below. I had a C172S do the same thing yesterday, all out by plane owners you can't find because their out of Delaware, you cant' find their phone numbers, where they are, what their rates are, and they don't have a website like a most flight instructors and schools have.

    All sounds very normal to me. The problem with the naysayers like you is I know a lot more about this than you do. You're worth waiting on. The DHS is behind this. Its highly illegal, and you guys who are pilots can probably learn more about it than any other group if you are so inclined. Oh, and is there more to it than simple Figure-8s by PA44s.
     
  7. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member


    Here is what the PA44s and Figure-8s and C172s and P28A and other light aircraft that perform them are involved in. Let me say one thing first. It is quite easy, only normal and natural, for a pilot like you to impute to other pilots performing Figure-8s that they are doing what you did, something legal and required. That is an error on your part, to impute your behavior and motives to these folks.

    Here's what its part of. It also involves peace officers in TX DPS, county sheriffs and local police in the area where I live. It involves experimentation on me using EMF and other things I won't go into. Its about torturing people for fun, pleasure.

    Now, go read this fairly short article penned by a woman who was contacted by a person who is involved in this type of activity. She was not a target of these people. She asked him for evidence proving it. He provided her with personal information he should not readily know, including her social security #, and then he sent her a photograph of her taken by her own computer, probably a laptop with a camera. Go read this. This is going on all over the United States, including by pilots out of the airport at Conroe, Texas, and probably 8 other airports in TX:

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  8. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    12/18/2020 RE: Update today

    Below is a screen shot of Tail # N1448Z. Minutes ago it flew within 1/8th of a mile of my property this morning (the same thing happened yesterday by other planes). FlightAware.com lists it as owned by National Training 1 LLC (Wilmington DE). It is blocked so its flight history cannot be accessed. So, its one of these (Wilmington DE) entities flying over and right next to my property almost daily. The word "Training" in its name suggests it is involved in training pilots. Well, if it does that it seems logical it will also be listed with the Comptrollers' office of the State of Texas, its website. So, I queried the Comptroller's website for "National Training 1". The query returned nothing, so this company isn't paying any required taxes to the State of Texas.

    Maybe I'm wrong and pilot instructors and schools aren't required to pay sales or other taxes to the Comptroller of Public Accounts of the State of Texas. Please let me know if that's the case. You pilots should know this easier than me.

    Galaxy FBO provides pilot training out of Conroe. It is listed with the Comptroller as Taxpayer # 32049392684.

    ATP Flight Academy of Texas LLC appears to offer flight training out of Conroe. The Comptroller's website lists it with Tax ID# 32043353096.

    Galaxy Flight Training LLC appears to offer flight training out of Conroe. The Comptroller's website lists it with Tax ID# 32039764595.

    Again, maybe I'm wrong about flight schools in Texas, and in fact, they are not required to collect taxes for the services they provide.

    Here's the screen shot of N1448Z:

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    Again, if you don't believe me about the activities I've experienced in the last 5 years, including by hundreds of aircraft flights in the last 3 years, go and read the article penned by a woman who was contacted by a person who engages in this type of highly illegal activity. Read it. The guy sent the author a photograph of the author taken from the camera on her computer!

    You should consider waking up about what is going on. In addition to aircraft, they've used extreme forms of EMF on me in the last 6 years and other things I won't go into here:

    https://www.stopgangstalkingcrimes.com/interview-with-a-gang-stalker
     
  9. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    Here ya go folks! Its 11:15 am and a C172-S just flew by my residence at 11:10 am. It slowed down from 118 kts at 11:08:56 to 59 kts at 11:11:13 and then turned to the NW. It also flew a beeline flight path to my property, all after I made the above posts to this thread.

    This plane is N1166W, owned by Flight Operations Aircraft LLC (Wilmington DE) & blocked at FlightAware to hide its flight history. So, another (Wilmington DE) just flew by my property after the one earlier this morning.

    I just queried the Texas Comptroller's website for "Flight Operations Aircraft". The results were negative, no company paying taxes to the State of Texas.

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  10. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    N20711 at 10:31 am this morning just flew over my property and performed what I refer to as a Sliding Figure-8 - just a coincidence:

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  11. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    Here is N4858T P28A on 12/26/2020 having flown into the south portion of my property with a Figure-8 before it got to the property:

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  12. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    N4858T P28A on 12/26/2020 at 12:56 pm performed a 2nd Figure-8 after flying over my property and reversing course - Yes these are all just coincidences, incident to pilot instruction:

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    I checked about 10 of this plane's flights in the last 2 months and not a one of them included a Figure-8, much less 2 of them.
     
  13. James

    James Guest

    It's called a chandelle or figure 8, this a common training maneuver and required check ride maneuver.

    Chandelle requires a pilot show he can manage an aircraft's power and momentum.

    Figure 8 shows pilot has basic control and can perform steep turns without vary altitude at speed.

    What you are seeing is someone getting a multi engine checkout and potentially a check ride for their multi engine / multi commercial if PA-44.

    If PA-28 they are single engine flight training / check rides.

    These planes were sold this summer and replaced by ATP with new planes.

    10 minutes on google looking for tail number solved this conundrum.

    "I just queried the Texas Comptroller's website for "Flight Operations Aircraft". The results were negative, no company paying taxes to the State of Texas." ---- Do you have a fuel tax? Business tax? Plenty of businesses use an LLC in other states to own aircraft.

    Anyway, everything you are pointing out is flight school planes.
     
  14. K4HLW

    K4HLW Moderator

    No you didn’t because the second someone told you what it probably was you declared you know it’s the NSA watching you and your just looking for confirmation. Truth is as someone else said these are common check flight maneuvers and there is probably something near your property that is an easily identifiable landmark they use as a reference.

    Please don’t post questions you don’t want actual answers to.
     
  15. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    I appreciate you response. It still doesn't explain how I posted this thread and within 63 minutes a PA44 flew directly to my property and performed a Figure-8 directly over me as I watched it!

    I also don't doubt that some of the Figure-8s are exactly what you describe. I don't doubt it at all. That doesn't mean that's the only reason they are doing it, and most of them are being performed by planes owned by LLCs formed in Delaware. There's little information on those corporations. There's a few filings with the TX Secy of State. One with the Texas Comptroller's website. So why all the PA44s owned by 2 or 3 companies out of (Wilmington DE) and who largely are not listed with the Comptroller, with one exception, flying Figure-8s over and near my property for the last couple of years?

    And none of the three LLCs has a website or an address in the State of Texas, yet they fly almost exclusively within the State of Texas, the ones near my property. Also, they are all on the blocked list, so they aren't easily tracked; however, I have repeatedly, repeatedly seen a DOT Aviation PA44 leave Conroe and normally flying to Arlington Muni, and within a short time or even before its departures, a second PA44 flies into Conroe. I've documented this so often I consider it to be their SOP. Also, if you will look at the tail #s of most all of them they fall within a range of about N802AT to N886AT. Many of which are consecutives tail numbers, which would seem like they were probably ordered together. At least the tail #s were maybe assigned at the very same time. I'm looking for the owner who is clearly hiding. I'm pretty sure I know who it is. The Company's out of Jacksonville, FL and I imagine everybody in the flight community knows who I'm talking about. I can prove it for several of the planes.

    So, if the presumption is correct all of these PA44s, C172s and P28As are conducting flight training, why is there no source for who these companies are and where the corporate office is, who its executives are and what its telephone # is? Where's their training facilities? I know they operate out of Conroe, Arlington and Grand Prairie. They often operate out of other airports, but these are the three I know of where they've been stationed uninterrupted for more than a year.

    You wrote, "These planes were sold this summer and replaced by ATP with new planes.". Do you have a source for that information? I happened to be an internet researcher by profession, so I'm always looking for leads in a project like this.

    Here's the tail #s of all of DOT Aviation's planes, which are all PA-44-180s:

    2545C
    810AT
    811AT
    814AT
    832AT
    833AT
    834AT
    835AT
    836AT
    882AT
    883AT
    884AT
    886AT

    Again, this owner is not paying/collecting taxes for the State of Texas if it is conducting flight training. I imagine that is required, though I don't know if for certain (though I can't imagine flight instructors escaping the long taxation arm of the Comptroller in Texas). A lot of flight instruction schools pay and collect taxes for the State of Texas and are listed in the Comptroller's website database.

    Let me close by saying again, thank you. And that there's much more to this story than airplanes flying Figure-8s. Its just one of the parts of the story. I haven't gotten into the other parts because this seems to be enough for this forum.

    If you are so inclined, I have another flight subject I'm interested in. Why so many planes are flying over the identical area within a matter of feet in some cases and flying the same maneuver I call a LEG maneuver. I think I may have already posted a screen shot of an example above. I'll check and if not I'll post one in another reply.
     
  16. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member

    I don't mind answers like that, but to suppose that Figure-8s are only performed by student pilots as part of flight instruction is ridiculous, though I understand its simpler to understand.

    Did you read above where I documented how within 63 minutes of the time I created this thread a PA44 flew directly to my property and performed a Figure-8 directly over my head? I'm suppose to believe that's just a coincidence? In fact, it was one of the PA44s owned by DOT Aviation LLC that perform Figure-8s regularly on the way to and over my property. Nay more, anybody would believe that's just a coincidence, is that right? Respectfully, not a chance on your life. 63 minutes after I posted my first comment to and created this thread, a PA44 flies directly up to my property and performs a Figure-8 directly over me. I'll be happy to send you the screen shot if you'd like. It must already be in this thread.

    So, if I'm correct in my suspicion, these folks knew I posted the thread. Now, who would know that? I know who it is and who is using it. And its probably not the NSA. It is almost certainly the DHS which has an office at the Conroe airport. Heck, I've been buzzed by several of DHS's OMAHA callsign DASH-8.

    I guess its only natural that the pilots of maybe 6-12 PA44s fly Figure-8s on the way to and over my property. Heck, DOT Aviation can't be found anywhere I know of offering flight instructions! It doesn't collect and pay taxes to the State of Texas according to the Texas Comptroller's website. It doesn't have a website, anything other than a Wilmington, DE address and no telephone #, and its officers and owners names are no where to be found. That suggests to me that who've owns DOT Aviation probably has a contract with the Federal gov't. They don't have to pay state taxes. Maybe I'm wrong.

    I know who almost certainly owns DOT Aviation. Its a company out of Jacksonville, FL you probably know yourself, and which is all over the internet, yet with DOT Aviation you can't find nearly anything out about it. So, you have a pretty well known aviation company that almost certainly owns DOT Aviation, yet hides it from the public at every turn. It doesn't make any sense and only creates suspicion! That doesn't sound like flight instruction to me, not flight instruction offered to the general public anyway, because if they are doing that they are going about it in the most mysterious way I can possibly imagine, by having absolutely not contact information anywhere I can find, and I'm an internet researcher by profession!

    And by the way, did I tell you about the 117 out of 128 axis deer these folks killed on my property in about 18 months? Not a scratch on any one of them. I had my $5,000 axis buck necropsied at Texas A&M, $400 worth, and the top 3 vets could not tell now he died. Oh, that's just a normal thing? No, because when I found him that morning there were 3 dead axis does lying right next to him. Oh, lightning? No. Nay more, I found no less than 20 times at least 3 dead axis deer right next to each other. Not a single sign trauma to a one of them. This all happened on 14 acres, not 200 or 2000.

    Today I should have 300 axis deer on my property. I have 8. So, Figure-8s aren't the only part of this story, and neither is 117 dead axis deer that couldn't die without dying next to 2 other axis deer within a circle with a diameter of 10 feet. There's more to it, a lot more to it. These Figure-8s are simple a part of it.

    Here's one of the DHS HC-12 Huron's that was stalking me almost every single day in the Spring of 2019. Its been stationed out of Hammond, LA for at least the past 2 years:

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  17. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member



    Here's DOT Aviation LLC's Management according to the TX Secy of State:

    Filing Number: 801583418 Entity Type: Foreign Limited Liability Company (LLC)
    Original Date of Filing: April 18, 2012 Entity Status: In existence
    Formation Date: N/A
    Tax ID: 32047680759 FEIN: 45407734
    Name: DOT Aviation, LLC
    Address: 2711 Centerville Road, Suite 400
    Wilmington, DE 19808 USA
    Fictitious Name: N/A
    Jurisdiction: DE, USA
    Foreign Formation Date: August 7, 2011
    REGISTERED AGENT FILING HISTORY NAMES MANAGEMENT ASSUMED NAMES ASSOCIATED ENTITIES
    Last Update Name Title Address
    April 18, 2012 Airline Transport Professionals Holdings, Inc. Manager F&L Corp, One Independent Drive, Suite 1300
    Jacksonville, FL 32202 USA

    So, why no website, Texas address, telephone # and why are they flying PA44s all over the State of Texas performing Figure-8s, and some other states as well, and can't be contacted and don't pay taxes to the State of Texas?

    Again, this is just a small part of the total story.
     
  18. James

    James Guest

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    [YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED]

    [WE ARE WATCHING]
     
  19. James

    James Guest

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    [YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED]
     
  20. Mark SKIPPER

    Mark SKIPPER Member


    Warned for what? Telling the truth. Every one of my posts today was polite.