Tar1090

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Colin Wellard, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    Good afternoon,
    Hope you all are keeping well and fit.
    I have recently been trying to add flightradar24 to my list of uploads but unfortunately have been told that I cannot do it with setup I already have on my pi so, I have given that one up for the time being, that aside I have noticed that now I cannot connect to the tar1090 site, it won't open the map, starts to then stops, I can see my uploads ok on the adsbexchange.com/myip/.
    Can someone tell me if there is a problem with that site or, if flightradar would have altered the program? in some way please.
    Thank you.
    Cheers
    Colin
    Stay safe stay well
     
  2. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

  3. RichardG

    RichardG Member

    What set up do you have? I managed to feed FR24 with the pre-built image and also with the feeder image I built from the ground up over the weekend all with ZERO issues. Also feeding Fllight aware, Open Skies, Plane Finder and my own VRS server on top of ADSBEx and FR24. (was feeding RadarBox, but I couldn't be a$$ed to faff about with all their instrctions again) As Wiedehoppf has posted while I am typing, a reinstall of your reabsd / dump might slove yout problems
     
  4. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    "Hi Colin,
    Correct me if I am wrong here. You are using flightaware's decoder dump1090-fa? In that case, only those two scenarios will work for FR24 software (beast-tcp and avr-tcp) but MLAT is not going to work in any case. FR24 software doesn't use MLAT packets in such an installation. That's by design, you are not doing anything wrong.
    --
    Best Regards,
    Muazzam
    Flightradar24"



    Hello Wiedehopf, Richard,
    Above is the reply I got from flightradar24 but I'm not actually using dump1090-fa, or at least I don't think so, don't recall installing it. I am using the adsbx image with the Planefinder program installed alongside it, I've given up on the FR24 for now at least till I get this sorted anyway.
    Totally agree Richard/Wiedehopf I'll go with wiedehoph's suggestion and re-install, are you uploading to all those on the same pi Richard?
    Thanks Wiedehopf, Richard, I did think it may have knocked the adsbexchange-stats sideways but I'll go with the cure all.
    Thanks again.
    Regards.
    Colin
     
  5. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    FR24 feed client is a heap of dung.

    They should automatically disable MLAT when they are not going to use it.
    If you set it up correctly, it will actually pretend to work in the fr24feed-status even when getting data via beast-tcp.

    But it's probably not used in that case... so ... not automatically disabling all the computation and status is absolutely stupid.


    Planefinder shouldn't mess with the installation.

    My guess is you at some point used the configuration option named DVB-T while setting up FR24.
    That will use the SDR directly and the SDR is already used by adsbexchange.
     
  6. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    MLAT never worked at all (for the reasons in the reply from flightradar24), nor did it upload any other data, the Planefinder was the first one I put on the pi's card and both Planefinder and ADSBx were jogging along nicely together, it's only since I started to introduce flightradar24 I had problems with the tar1090 site, according to the website the ADSBx upload is working ok, as is Planefinder, it's just the map website.
    Your last statement is bang on the nose, I run through all of the settings and the Beast TCP and avr TCP were the only two that would connect to the reciever, so, yes I probably did try the DVD-T at some stage, I have since read that this could cause problems but having said that the other two are still running ok.
    Cheers.
    Colin
     
  7. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    sudo nano /etc/fr24feed.ini

    Change the following settings to the following values:

    receiver="beast-tcp"
    host="127.0.0.1:30005"
    bs="no"
    raw="no"


    Ctrl-O and enter to save
    Ctrl-X to exit

    sudo systemctl stop fr24feed
    sudo apt remove dump1090-mutability
    sudo rm /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled/89-dump1090.conf
    sudo reboot

    See if that fixes your issues.
     
  8. RichardG

    RichardG Member

    Hi Colin have you considered just re-installing tar1090 from wiedehopf's github? If everything is feeding fine then maybe something borked the tar1090 file and a running the install script may sort the problem. My FR24 feed claims to have it's MLAT working. I expect it to stop in about a week or so. When using the ABSDEx image it just stopped working one day and never came back. No great loss IMHO. As long as my feeds/MLAT to ADSBEx and my VRS work I am not that fussed about the others apart from FA as I quite like their stats page. I tried to get as many working on there as I could just to see if I could, and yes to confirm they are all running off the same Pi 4. Re-built the image from scratch over the w/e in about 3 hours. Installed RLT_SDR Drivers >> wiedehopf's auto readsb script >> ADBEx Feed Script >> tar1090 >> graphs1090>> ADSBEx stats >> VRS Sever with mono (plus getting it all set up) >> Backed up the image >> then FA feeder, FR24 feeder, OpenSkies Feeder and Plane FInder >> Backed up the image again.
    My CPU load was about 6-7% down on the old ADSBEx image I was using, but I had messed about with it a lot
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2020
  9. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    Hello Guy's,
    Thanks wiedehopf, I'll give that a go and see what happens, if not then I'll do a re-install like Richard suggested.
    That's neat stuff there Richard I wouldn't have thought a pi would do all that, I know it's a 4 but still, my pi4 still won't boot up with a powered hub attached that's why it's in the corner looking after the cluster of the old pi's I have, I also have started a VRS, get to have a look at the workings or it.
    I was going to have a fiddle with the a/c icons on the ADSBx map (all in house) but I've had a look around and they seem to me to need no alterations after a good look at them. Wiedhopf said he was pleased with them as they are and so he should be.
    I'll knock it on the head for tonight (there's a BOB thing on the TV tonight ) Iwant to catch, must say though nice to see the F35's back on screen.
    Thanks again, you've both been a great help and I feel confident in getting it back to normal.
    Regards.
    Colin
     
  10. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    Hello Wiedehopf/Richard,
    I did the alterations as in your mail wiedehopf and spot on, the only hiccup was only that Lighttpd was not installed but now I've got the green smiley faces, access to tar1090 and all seems well again, I'll leave it a few days to settle down and may try fr24 or FA or both (like you Richard, see how far I can push a Pi3B+) again later but all is well at the moment and both emails are in my repair folder on my desktop, if I had a quarter of both you guys knowledge I'd be dangerous.
    Thanks again for your help.
    Take care.
    Colin
     
  11. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    How can lighttpd not be installed on the adsbx image?

    You mean the configuration file wasn't there ....
    Removing that was just a precaution, so if nothing gets removed then that's also good.
    Only making sure that file doesn't exist.
     
  12. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    Hi,
    It just came up with file not found, I assumed that meant it wasn't installed.
     
  13. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    So ... saying the config file was not installed / not present would both be ok.

    But ... you said lighttpd wasn't installed.
    And that's another matter.
    Also: This is the filename:
    89-dump1090.conf
    it's the last part of the path:
    /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled/89-dump1090.conf

    So .... saying 89-dump1090.conf wasn't present, that would have made sense.

    filesystem root: /
    etc folder: /etc
    configuration folder for lighttpd: /etc/lighttpd
    anyhow .... just explaining (shortly) how the filesystem works.

    Btw if lighttpd wasn't installed, then none of the local webpages served by your RPi would be working.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2020
  14. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    I can only tell you what it came up with, the why's and wherefores are out of my league at the moment.
    Cheers.
     
  15. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    Well but you didn't tell me the exact error message, you interpreted it wrong.
    Which really hampers communication, that's why i explained a bit.
     
  16. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    My appologies, I'll know better in future.
    Colin
     
  17. RichardG

    RichardG Member

    Lol.... not been following the thread today... I would say that Wiedhopf has 99.5% of the knowledge and I am trying to learn the other .5%. I have only been feeding for about 7 weeks. My ADSB Feeder was/is my lockdown project. Pleased to hear it is now all sorted for you.

    P.s. just re-read. What do you need a powered hub for. I would be giving the Pi it's own dedicated power supply... a very good one at that. Canakit or similar, something with a filter on it which apparently gives better power to the Pi and less likely to mess up your SDR
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2020
  18. Colin Wellard

    Colin Wellard Member

    Hello Richard,
    Thanks for that, nicely running now, you seem to appear quite knowledgable in your emails.
    I have two of the four USB ports taken up with a wireless keyboard and one other a mouse, the mouse with the keyboard died so I have to have another reciever for a seperate mouse, the powered hub is on because a little while ago I started getting the low power lightening symbol flashing, (I will hasten to add these are not on my uploading pi but another pi 3 B+ I have in my room that I monitor the uploading with) I do also have a nooelec dongle connected to that and do a bit of experimenting with it on antenna and the like (that is where I tested my homemade Franklin style antenna) before I put it on the roof and connected it to the uploading 3 B+.
    I have the Raspberry pi power supplies on all of my pi's but am looking at going totally self sufficient and thinking of making some kind of solar panel power, they are biginning to take over the house.
    Cheers
     
  19. RichardG

    RichardG Member

    I run completely headless on my Pi's. My feeder lives under a chest of draws in my bedroom and the antenna is taped to the inside of the window. From what I have read your Pi3 shoud easily be able to feed all those sites and VRS all on the same Pi, if you so choose. My Pi4 is rather overkill, I got a 4Gb one as I did not really know what I was going for. I've never used more than about 300Mb of the RAM and the processor ticks over at about 7-10%. I have since got a second one since for experimentation purposes so I dont keep breaking my feeder while expirementing. You seem to have more of the antenna knowledge than me... I know where I'll be coming if I get around to a DIY antenna.
     
  20. wiedehopf

    wiedehopf Administrator Staff Member

    VRS slows down the Pi3 ..... but if you run VRS on the Windows computer anyhow it's not an issue.

    Try making Putty work ..... there are guides for that with Raspbian.
    Then you can copy paste as well and show logs and stuff.

    Also ... this is a forum, not email.
    Each message is called a post / forum post.